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Splash Mountain Makeover - not happy
I cannot believe Disney is going to completely change Splash Mountain. One of my absolute favorite rides in all the parks. I know they have their reasons but it seems like a huge overreaction to me. And I did not like The Princess and the Frog at all when I saw it. Certainly never once thought about race or stereotypes as we tried to save the rabbit from the wolf
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My youngest daughter (15) and I just rewatched "The Princess and the Frog" and were saying that a Splash Mountain redo feels like a natural fit for this movie. Well, except for the mountain part. Ain't no mountains in New Orleans/the bayou.
I will miss Splash Mountain, and even though they haven't said that this move is because of the current social movement/climate, I agree that it has to be a part of the decision. I think that they did a good job of removing any racist-overtones when they adapted Splash Mountain from The Song of the South, but it will always be tied to it.
This is one of those cases where I'm cool with them redoing the ride and modernizing it with a more current story and better effects (looking forward to an animatronic Louis, myself), but I will definitely miss Splash Mountain. Thank heaven we have YouTube and video ride thru's so that we will never forget.
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This is something that has been in the works for a while. It is not in response to recent events
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This truly makes me cry. I live this ride, the movies and the characters. Brer Rabbit is a wonderful Disneybmemory for me. On our last trip I was able to get an autograph and picture during the Halloween Party. Never thought that would be the last trip I would ride this favorite or see him. So so sad[emoji26][emoji1787][emoji23][emoji24]
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Originally Posted by Zippy 1
This is something that has been in the works for a while. It is not in response to recent events
Yeah, I just read that last night. Definitely been working in it for quite a while. But, great timing, though!
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I am not a fan of changing the ride either. It has always been one of the favorites.
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Just not seeing how they will fit a "mountain" into New Orleans...or Lousiana, at all. BUT, like everything else they do, I will wait and see what happens.
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So I came to the 'cot today to start a thread about this but here is my thinking...
I just watched Princess and the Frog for the first time last week (I know I'm behind). I was kind of surprised at the portrayal of both the African American culture as well as the New Orleans/backwoods type culture. The whole movie to me looked like something out of the 80's. Not racist per say but very old timey and not very "current" Am I the only one?
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Originally Posted by PopPhan
Just not seeing how they will fit a "mountain" into New Orleans...or Lousiana, at all. BUT, like everything else they do, I will wait and see what happens.
My thoughts exactly! No hills or mountains in the Mississippi Delta Region. Maybe they could configure it for post-Katrina flooding since NOLA is actually below sea level. I'm joking on this of course. Don't kick me off Intercot!
Anyway, I too am disappointed by all this cancel culture. Don't erase your past, embrace past shortcomings and recognize that we are now smarter and better. Otherwise we will surely fail again.
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Originally Posted by Zippy 1
This is something that has been in the works for a while. It is not in response to recent events
It may have been in the works for a while - but it's also safe to say it was fast tracked by current events...
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Mixed views on this one, Splash Mountain has been probably my favourite ride since I was a child and I will certainly miss it. I have never seen Song of the South but I saw it (as most people probably do?) as effectively a stand-alone ride. I have never been that keen on the recent trend of giving every stand-alone ride an overhaul based on a movie as then the original story is effectively lost forever.
That said I understand why some communities may find a ride based on Song of the South distressing and if they do it certainly isn't my place as a Caucasian British man to be telling them how they feel about it. For what it's worth the artist impressions do look very nice and it will be Disney's challenge to try and tie it in with the park location. I'll only be able to judge the move once it is finished I guess.
My biggest complaint is that with my next trip now scheduled for May 2021 I am in the situation where the refurb work will have almost definitely started but almost definitely not finished. So I get neither ride.
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Originally Posted by JanetMegan
So I came to the 'cot today to start a thread about this but here is my thinking...
I just watched Princess and the Frog for the first time last week (I know I'm behind). I was kind of surprised at the portrayal of both the African American culture as well as the New Orleans/backwoods type culture. The whole movie to me looked like something out of the 80's. Not racist per say but very old timey and not very "current" Am I the only one?
Originally Posted by baldburke
My thoughts exactly! No hills or mountains in the Mississippi Delta Region. Maybe they could configure it for post-Katrina flooding since NOLA is actually below sea level. I'm joking on this of course. Don't kick me off Intercot!
Anyway, I too am disappointed by all this cancel culture. Don't erase your past, embrace past shortcomings and recognize that we are now smarter and better. Otherwise we will surely fail again.
Well, yeah. I haven't seen many talking gators or glowbugs down south either. Another great ride bites the dust. I keep waiting for the Hall of Presidents to be changed to the Hall of President since someone pretty much hates all of them.
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I'm totally with you. Really bad move. And yeah, it was definitely politically motivated by current events. No doubt. My 9 year old cried for 30 minutes when I told her. It's her favorite ride, and mine, too. Hard to believe they'd take it out.
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Originally Posted by Gator
I'm totally with you. Really bad move. And yeah, it was definitely politically motivated by current events. No doubt. My 9 year old cried for 30 minutes when I told her. It's her favorite ride, and mine, too. Hard to believe they'd take it out.
Blood in the water now. Folks will find something about every ride.. By the end, there will just be dole whips (maybe) and a pond.
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Originally Posted by texas211
Blood in the water now. Folks will find something about every ride.. By the end, there will just be dole whips (maybe) and a pond.
Guess ya always have the option to stay home then.
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Originally Posted by Gator
My 9 year old cried for 30 minutes when I told her. It's her favorite ride, and mine, too. Hard to believe they'd take it out.
It's actually harder to believe it took this long. It should have been done years ago. It's based on a theme and a movie the younger generations will never know and never relate to. It's being replaced by characters and songs the younger generations do know. And there's no reason to think the new version, when it opens, can't be a favorite of your daughter's as well.
Attractions change all the time over the years for various reasons. And we still seem to go back to enjoy them year after year - at least until a pandemic put a pin in it for a bit. Very much looking forward to the new splash ride.....
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It is all so sad that everything is political these days. I’m all for not hurting feelings, but Splash Mountain, seriously?
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Interesting those of you who are saying that there are no mountains in New Orleans...there were no mountains in Brer Rabbit's story, either, but yet here we are. I mean, it's literally a story of Brer Rabbit being chased through bayou country *already*. It's no big stretch to just drop The Princess and the Frog's scenes into that ride.
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Originally Posted by ThanxForNoticin
It's actually harder to believe it took this long. It should have been done years ago. It's based on a theme and a movie the younger generations will never know and never relate to. It's being replaced by characters and songs the younger generations do know. And there's no reason to think the new version, when it opens, can't be a favorite of your daughter's as well.
Attractions change all the time over the years for various reasons. And we still seem to go back to enjoy them year after year - at least until a pandemic put a pin in it for a bit. Very much looking forward to the new splash ride.....
Actually, there is a reason. Perhaps they don't like the Princess and the Frog. I LOVED Maelstrom. I hate Frozen. I went on this ride once so that others could see it. I doubt if I ride it again unless I'm with a small child who loves Frozen.
There are lots of rides in the world that aren't based on a movie, and kids love them. Kids don't have to see Song of the South to like the ride. Pirates of the Caribbean was a beloved ride before the movies. It's ok that you are looking forward to it, but that doesn't mean everyone else will like the change.
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Originally Posted by Cinderelley
Actually, there is a reason. Perhaps they don't like the Princess and the Frog. I LOVED Maelstrom. I hate Frozen. I went on this ride once so that others could see it. I doubt if I ride it again unless I'm with a small child who loves Frozen.
There are lots of rides in the world that aren't based on a movie, and kids love them. Kids don't have to see Song of the South to like the ride. Pirates of the Caribbean was a beloved ride before the movies. It's ok that you are looking forward to it, but that doesn't mean everyone else will like the change.
As much as I am not happy because I love the original I also thought The Princess and the Frog Movie was not good so that adds to why I am not too happy with this redo
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