NextGen, Magic Band, and FP+

[doodleboy]

I've actually been denied eating at a place because I didn't have a reservation, so it does happen.

I spent a whole week eating CS because we planned the trip in short notice. Had fun overall, but it got old being told no for 7 days straight.

[jonahbear2006]

there are hidden gems like Grand Floridian Cafe. Even when it's busy it is hard to be told no there.

[CuteAsMinnie]

Ugh I am so confused!

Do we know yet if:

- Is FP going away completely (eventually)
- We'll only be able to get FP using pre-arranged FP+?
- are KTTW cards being completely replaced (where ALL guests must have the darn MagicBand)

Never had an issue with FP before, using it within the return window worked fine with us and we never make more than 2-3 ADRs during a 7-9 day trip. Will this strategy be a thing of the past?

[AndrewJackson]

Ugh I am so confused!

Do we know yet if:

- Is FP going away completely (eventually)
- We'll only be able to get FP using pre-arranged FP+?
- are KTTW cards being completely replaced (where ALL guests must have the darn MagicBand)

Never had an issue with FP before, using it within the return window worked fine with us and we never make more than 2-3 ADRs during a 7-9 day trip. Will this strategy be a thing of the past?

Right now, FastPass+ and Magic+ are optional and require the guest to opt-in. I did read on another site that if you opt-in for FastPass+, you will no longer be able to get standard FastPasses.

My guess is that it is just a matter of time before the regular FastPass system is gone.

I don't think the ADR plan will change much. My family goes when it is usually crowded because we have school age children. If we go to a restaurant that takes ADRs withou one, we don't get seated. I would imagine that if you are going during the year that is less crowded and ADRs aren't necessary for many of the restaurants, the new Magic+ system won't change that much.

[Cheshire_Girl]

Right now, FastPass+ and Magic+ are optional and require the guest to opt-in. I did read on another site that if you opt-in for FastPass+, you will no longer be able to get standard FastPasses.

My guess is that it is just a matter of time before the regular FastPass system is gone.

I know there has been speculation as to the fate of the current FP system ever since the first rumors of the new system began to surface. Has there been any official word that says the current FP is going to go away? Am I missing something?
As a local AP, the new FP+ and MMW+ does not appeal to me. It is something I will never use. I live an hour away. Why would I pay $200+ to participate in these "programms" that are designed for tourists.
Somedays, the current FP system is the only way I get to ride anything in the parks. If that goes away-so does my AP. I'll spend my money else where,. And I know there are a lot of locals that feel the same.
Trust me, as FL resident pass holder, we don't get any perks. In fact-it seems like a lot of the changes occuring or rumored to occur are designed to tell us locals they don't want our busniness.

[DizNut42]

We were at WDW over Marathon Weekend. The new MyMagic+ was a bit of a hassle for getting into the parks as 1/3 of the turnstiles were available to folks with park passes (APs, day tickets, etc) 1/3 for the new RFIDs in the KTTW cards and 1/3 out of commission (being updated to the new RFID readers, we assume). So with only a handful of resorts participating, there were no lines to enter the parks at the RFID entry point, but it was a cattle call at the old biometric turnstiles.

They have had RFIDs in the KTTW cards for a year or so for entering the rooms. Mostly OK, but for us, three out of the four of our KTTWs would not open the room. Had to get new ones. Not a real hassle, just a minor inconvenience.

Purchases with the RFID KTTW cards were ok, not available at many places yet. PIN needed for every purchase, ok. Don't think it saves any time. Not sure what the limits on the PINs are, mine was eight numbers.

The jury is still out on the rest of the new-gen stuff until we experience it.

[doodleboy]

So as a DVC member that always purchases APs, where does that leave me? I use my AP to enter parks, not a KTTW. Will my AP be equipped with RFID, or will a get a bracelet at BCV when I check-in with my AP added to it for my stay? How will I make FT+ reservations with a room only DVC reservation?

Is Magic+ only for people that are staying on property?

[yankeesfan123]

So as a DVC member that always purchases APs, where does that leave me? I use my AP to enter parks, not a KTTW. Will my AP be equipped with RFID, or will a get a bracelet at BCV when I check-in with my AP added to it for my stay? How will I make FT+ reservations with a room only DVC reservation?

Is Magic+ only for people that are staying on property?

I have a similar concern. I typically book room only packages and purchase tickets through the Official Ticket Center. It is my understanding that these are not considered MYW tickets. So I'm still not sure if they can be "linked" to my reservation and wristband. I keep reading different answers on different websites

[DizNut42]

We are DVC with APs as well. Not sure how it will all work out either. On our trip over Marathon weekend, we just used our APs as usual, and some of the RFID stuff with the KTTW card (room access, some purchases). I would think that at some point you could add the AP to the KTTW card and then just need only that for everything. Time will tell.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Iger, Staggs, Rasulo, Franklin MacPhee, anyone else involved in this NextGen datamining of children ready to testify on Capital Hill in the future?

Ed Markey Concerned Over Disney Plan to Track Kids with Bracelets


And here is the copy of the letter to Iger....

Ed Mackey's Letter to Iger

For those who don't know, Ed Mackey was one of the authors of the 1998 COPPA law which restricts websites from collecting data on children... Someone is looking out for the kids!!!!

Maybe the concerns raised before weren't so conspiracy theory based after all...

[NJGIRL]

I don't like any of this. Setting up dining 180 days in advance just to get a table is crazy, but now you have to do it for rides, shows and parades too! You can't even stand on the sidewalk where you want without having a resevation. Your whole day has to be planned step by step and if you don't go along with this then you risk the chance of missing out on things you want to do.

We have one more trip planned this coming Oct with my youngest nephew, if it is the mess it sounds like it will be, we will be taking a break for a while after that.

What's next....having to plan you bathroom breaks 180 days in advance.

[Stu29573]

Iger, Staggs, Rasulo, Franklin MacPhee, anyone else involved in this NextGen datamining of children ready to testify on Capital Hill in the future?

Ed Markey Concerned Over Disney Plan to Track Kids with Bracelets


And here is the copy of the letter to Iger....

Ed Mackey's Letter to Iger

For those who don't know, Ed Mackey was one of the authors of the 1998 COPPA law which restricts websites from collecting data on children... Someone is looking out for the kids!!!!

Maybe the concerns raised before weren't so conspiracy theory based after all...

No, they weren't. One must realize that first and foremost- for better or worse, Disney is NOT "Uncle Walt" looking after his kids, but a huge inpersonal moneymaking machine. The danger of data being misused is real. Sad, but true.

On a not unrelated topic, I'm thinking that maybe any future Disney vacation taken by my family will be headed west....

[Roger's #1 Fan]

What's next....having to plan you bathroom breaks 180 days in advance.

That's their next innovation....MagicPants+

[DizneyFreak2002]

No, they weren't. One must realize that first and foremost- for better or worse, Disney is NOT "Uncle Walt" looking after his kids, but a huge inpersonal moneymaking machine. The danger of data being misused is real. Sad, but true.

Exactly, and to add to that, blindly following the mouse can lead down very dangerous roads... I cannot see how anyone can defend this... Especially when the fact that Disney will be datamining children... This is a major problem for Disney no matter how much they want to try to make it sound like it is the best thing to come to theme parks...

And if you go to DL, please post trip reports!!!

[Stu29573]

And if you go to DL, please post trip reports!!!

I will! Being in Texas one coast is about as close as the other...

[DizneyFreak2002]

I will! Being in Texas one coast is about as close as the other...

Awesome!!! I have to live vicariously through others LOL... I don't fly so there goes DL for me

[Stu29573]

Awesome!!! I have to live vicariously through others LOL... I don't fly so there goes DL for me

Yeah, NJ to CA would be a heck of a hike!

[AndrewJackson]

Iger, Staggs, Rasulo, Franklin MacPhee, anyone else involved in this NextGen datamining of children ready to testify on Capital Hill in the future?

Ed Markey Concerned Over Disney Plan to Track Kids with Bracelets


And here is the copy of the letter to Iger....

Ed Mackey's Letter to Iger

For those who don't know, Ed Mackey was one of the authors of the 1998 COPPA law which restricts websites from collecting data on children... Someone is looking out for the kids!!!!

Maybe the concerns raised before weren't so conspiracy theory based after all...

Rep. Markey is just mad because he was stuck in the 180 minute standby line for Toy Story Mania over Christmas break.

[doodleboy]

Yeah, NJ to CA would be a heck of a hike!

But if you have never been to DL it is so worth it. DL seems to be jammed together a little tighter, but the novelty of it all is wonderful, and CA is a fun park too. Not to mention that you can walk between the two. And the California weather is very different from Florida. Very mild most of the year with the hottest time being July-Sept. You will also find there is so much to do outside of the parks in the LA area. I lived in San Diego for many years and miss it tremendously. Very beautiful part of the country.

Sorry didn't mean to change topic, but get to DL in your lifetime if you can.

[Stu29573]

But if you have never been to DL it is so worth it. DL seems to be jammed together a little tighter, but the novelty of it all is wonderful, and CA is a fun park too. Not to mention that you can walk between the two. And the California weather is very different from Florida. Very mild most of the year with the hottest time being July-Sept. You will also find there is so much to do outside of the parks in the LA area. I lived in San Diego for many years and miss it tremendously. Very beautiful part of the country.

Sorry didn't mean to change topic, but get to DL in your lifetime if you can.

Thanks for the input! The last (and only) time I was at DL was in 1973! This would be a 40 year homecoming, lol. Anyway, I have been thinking about it a while. Now, back to whatever this thread is really about......