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I have no problem with the phrase Happy Holidays. I think it's appropriate, given our multi-cultural diversity nowadays.
I have a problem when a Christmas Tree skirt, or a stocking, or a piece of decorative whatever which CONTAINS a Christmas tree, or Santa, says "Happy Holidays" on it, rather than Merry Christmas.
Things associated with Christmas, and that are USED for Christmas decorating, specifically, should not say "Happy Holidays". Drives me nuts!
But, Happy Holidays to all! I think the only time I get upset is when someone says "Happy Holidays" ON Christmas day. That's weird.
Natalie
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I usually wish you Merry Christmas, but sometimes it will be Mele Kalikimaka after living in Hawaii for 13 years.
As for others, wish me a Merry Christmas, Happy Kwanza, Happy Hanukkah or Happy Hoildays if it comes from the heart is what matters.
KAY
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Originally Posted by Hammer
Agree 100% !!! I wish more people would focus on learning to all coexist instead of division.
Nothing wrong with sounding like John Lennon either, especially on the 31st anniversary of his passing.
^This
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Originally Posted by MNNHFLTX
My point is that what I believe is not dependent on seasonal greetings or displays but what is in my heart. I would much rather focus on coming together with other faiths in peace and love than in dissention. (I know that sounds very John Lennon-ish, but that's how I feel.)
Oh I totally agree with you in the sense that I don't care what kind of holiday greeting people give me, as long as we embrace the "Spirit of the season" and all recognize that everyone has the right to celebrate their holiday in the way they choose. But to many people, labels do matter, because it takes away from the religious nature of things. I also respect John Lennon, but "Imagine no religion" is not realistic. Many people hold their religious traditions dear, and when people try to take away from that, they get upset. I don't see what's wrong with keeping the "Christmas" name on "Christmas" traditions. Chanukah is not " The Winter Festival." A menorah or a Kwanzaa Kinara is not a "Winter Candle Holder." We can all come together, while respecting each other's beliefs and special celebrations.
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I typically say Merry Christmas to people I know celebrate Christmas, but stick to the more general "Happy Holidays" for people I don't know (like store clerks, etc.).
I figure this time of the year is for making friends, being extra kind to your fellow man, and doing good for those not as fortunate. No sense accidentally offending someone!
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Originally Posted by PirateLover
Chanukah is not " The Winter Festival." A menorah or a Kwanzaa Kinara is not a "Winter Candle Holder." We can all come together, while respecting each other's beliefs and special celebrations.
Excellent and very thought provoking comment.
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Just to play devil's advocate...
The "holidays" is actually a conjuction of the term "holy days". In essence when wishing others "happy holidays" you are not only wishing them merry christmas, but all other winter religious celebrations as well.
The christmas tree is in fact a christian co-opted pagan symbol (as are many other symbols for christmas and easter for that matter) and as such I've always found it amusing that there are those that are so adamant about it being a "christian" thing.
I myself say merry christmas as a general rule, however at the same time really have to wonder about those who put so much thought and concern over a phrase. It's just words...it's what's in your heart that matters most.
"Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." Edgar Allen Poe
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Originally Posted by Evil Genius
The christmas tree is in fact a christian co-opted pagan symbol (as are many other symbols for christmas and easter for that matter) and as such I've always found it amusing that there are those that are so adamant about it being a "christian" thing.
Although The church did indeed "co-opt" rituals as well as days of celebration from the pagans, there is not cut and dry evidence so far as I know that connects the decorating of an evergreen tree to paganism. The pagans worshiped nature, so it doesn't seem likely that they would celebrate a tradition of cutting down a tree to bring into their house. Other traditions such as the decoration of the house with branches and clippings of greens, the yule log, etc. are clearly pagan. Either way, the connection to Christmas has been around since the 16th century or so. It is interesting to note that puritans banned christmas trees as well as many other festive celebrations, declaring them pagan in origin and taking away from the holiness of the day.
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Originally Posted by PirateLover
Although The church did indeed "co-opt" rituals as well as days of celebration from the pagans, there is not cut and dry evidence so far as I know that connects the decorating of an evergreen tree to paganism. The pagans worshiped nature, so it doesn't seem likely that they would celebrate a tradition of cutting down a tree to bring into their house. Other traditions such as the decoration of the house with branches and clippings of greens, the yule log, etc. are clearly pagan. Either way, the connection to Christmas has been around since the 16th century or so. It is interesting to note that puritans banned christmas trees as well as many other festive celebrations, declaring them pagan in origin and taking away from the holiness of the day.
Just to clarify, the practice of bringing evergreens into the home to celebrate the winter solstice pre-date christianity by at least two centuries. It's never been attributed to any specfic pagan sect, however there is recorded use of the practice that far back.
"Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night." Edgar Allen Poe
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The Roman pagans originally brought evergreen bushes inside in order to celebrate Saturnalia. This was a celebration of the God Saturn. The Romans would bring the evergreen boughs inside in order to celebrate the coming of Spring. The reason that the Romans, and we ourselves, still bring trees inside is to serve as a reminder that although it is cold and grey outside now in a few months everything will be green and alive once again. The Catholic Church positioned Christmas at the same time of the year. The Christmas tree that we know today really began in Germany.
That being said, I don't understand the hub-bub about Merry Christmas vs. Happy Holidays. This is supposed to be an inclusive time of the year. Many people are celebrating many holidays. Why leave entire groups of people out by wishing them Merry Christmas. I only send Happy Holiday cards because I am aware that not everyone celebrates the way that I do and I respect their beliefs and know that this time of year isn't all about Christmas.
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