Just got back...line etiquette questions

[PeterPan]

We have had endless discussions here about this subject. The facts are...

1. There are ALWAYS going to be people who jump lines. It does not matter what kind of rules Disney makes, or how they try to enforce them.

2. (Others have said this) Don't let a RUDE line jumper ruin your vacation. We have NO CONTROL over what others do. We have TOTAL CONTROL of how we react to it.

3. Honestly, even if 12 people cut in front of you...how long of a delay is that? One minute? Yes, I KNOW that's not the point ... it's the rudeness. But ... be the BIGGER PERSON! Let it go! Keep your smile! TRY TO TRIP THEM AS THEY PASS and KEEP SMILING!

[Terra]

We have had endless discussions here about this subject. The facts are...

1. There are ALWAYS going to be people who jump lines. It does not matter what kind of rules Disney makes, or how they try to enforce them.

2. (Others have said this) Don't let a RUDE line jumper ruin your vacation. We have NO CONTROL over what others do. We have TOTAL CONTROL of how we react to it.

3. Honestly, even if 12 people cut in front of you...how long of a delay is that? One minute? Yes, I KNOW that's not the point ... it's the rudeness. But ... be the BIGGER PERSON! Let it go! Keep your smile! TRY TO TRIP THEM AS THEY PASS and KEEP SMILING!

Great post and I agree.

I always like to say, we don't always know the whole story either [as in the case with my SPD/developmentally delayed son].

[Disney Doll]

Wow...I see a whole lot of people who need a lesson in not sweating the small stuff. Lighten up and enjoy your vacation! You can't control other people, you can only control yourself. Chose to not get stressed and riled so that you can enjoy the magic.

[UCJen]

Wow...I see a whole lot of people who need a lesson in not sweating the small stuff. Lighten up and enjoy your vacation! You can't control other people, you can only control yourself. Chose to not get stressed and riled so that you can enjoy the magic.

I agree, to a point. However, it gets tiresome when this is not only a daily occurrence, but something you witness 2-3 times a day throughout the duration of your vacation.

Why should I allow someone to act as if their vacation time is more valuable than mine, especially when when my family is following all of the rules?

And I am talking about the blatant queue jumpers, not parents with little ones who need the toilet or parents of children with special needs.

[Terra]

I agree, to a point. However, it gets tiresome when this is not only a daily occurrence, but something you witness 2-3 times a day throughout the duration of your vacation.

Why should I allow someone to act as if their vacation time is more valuable than mine, especially when when my family is following all of the rules?

And I am talking about the blatant queue jumpers, not parents with little ones who need the toilet or parents of children with special needs.

It seems like you [general you] are bound to see it more at a WDW just for the sheer fact of the multi-thousands and thousands of people there. So in the grand scheme of things 2-3 times a day with 30,000+ people around really isn't that much, at least for me. I just don't pay too much attention.

[jaredkari]

Sorry I got confused and put the wrong title on the post.

I am with you though, line cutting is getting out of control. I understand that some will say that they had to go to the bathroom or their 4 year old had to go to the bathroom. Well guess what, you get out of the line and start over. Sorry I am a little cold hearted when it comes to line cutters.

[Terra]

Sorry I got confused and put the wrong title on the post.

I am with you though, line cutting is getting out of control. I understand that some will say that they had to go to the bathroom or their 4 year old had to go to the bathroom. Well guess what, you get out of the line and start over. Sorry I am a little cold hearted when it comes to line cutters.

Just curious. Do you have children or children with special needs? If you do, do you always just "start over" if they have to go to the bathroom?

[jaredkari]

Yep we have been with our young nieces several times and if we are in line and they needed to go we jumped out of line and just started over. It stunk but we explained to them before we got in line that if they needed to go we would have to start over so if they needed to go they better do it now. I know my point of view is going to be unpopular. Just like in life you don't take short cuts.

[smsp]

Wow, since most of you are saying dont sweat it, just ignore it, its only a small percentage, then maybe I need to start line jumping.

SMSP

[big blue and hairy]

I am big, and with a rotten temper when this happens, it is simple. I do not move. Try to force your way past me it won't happen. I will claim assault if anyone touches me wrong, then self defense right after.

I have to say, with the family friendly and non-confrontational bent of this website (which I like btw), I am suprised that no moderator has has said anything about promoting violence at WDW as a legitimate way of handling a minor problem. Really? Would you rather have someone pass you in line or a fight break out in front of you?

[dizneydeb22]

I have to say, with the family friendly and non-confrontational bent of this website (which I like btw), I am suprised that no moderator has has said anything about promoting violence at WDW as a legitimate way of handling a minor problem. Really? Would you rather have someone pass you in line or a fight break out in front of you?

My thoughts exactly.

[UCJen]

It seems like you [general you] are bound to see it more at a WDW just for the sheer fact of the multi-thousands and thousands of people there. So in the grand scheme of things 2-3 times a day with 30,000+ people around really isn't that much, at least for me. I just don't pay too much attention.

I see you live in Florida and have said you are an AP holder. I think there is a difference in experiences between someone popping in on a whim for a visit, versus someone who spends one week a year at WDW.

I would probably be blase about line cutter as well if I could go to WDW whenever I wanted (lucky you ).

[UCJen]

I have to say, with the family friendly and non-confrontational bent of this website (which I like btw), I am suprised that no moderator has has said anything about promoting violence at WDW as a legitimate way of handling a minor problem. Really? Would you rather have someone pass you in line or a fight break out in front of you?

Speaking fights breaking out. About four years ago, we were waiting in line for TT. We were waiting in the line after the pre-show, when this family of 8, shoves right through. I was agog and stunned at the outright cheek of it. However, as they approached the CM who tells you which number to stand on, this man starts shouting at this family and somebody shouted racial epiphets, which is always great for children to hear.

So, that's when the shoving started and the CM hustled the line cutters onto cars, to prevent a fight. The man who confronted the line cutters said something to the CM and she just shrugged her shoulders.

I certainly don't expect CMs to get in the fray and she did the right thing to diffuse a situation, but I wonder how many other people saw that line cutting is a low risk/high reward activity?

And I have definitely seen an increase in the past 3-4 years.

[Terra]

Yep we have been with our young nieces several times and if we are in line and they needed to go we jumped out of line and just started over. It stunk but we explained to them before we got in line that if they needed to go we would have to start over so if they needed to go they better do it now. I know my point of view is going to be unpopular. Just like in life you don't take short cuts.

I assure you having nieces is a lot different than having your own children [not just on this issue but many issues]

I see you live in Florida and have said you are an AP holder. I think there is a difference in experiences between someone popping in on a whim for a visit, versus someone who spends one week a year at WDW.

I would probably be blase about line cutter as well if I could go to WDW whenever I wanted (lucky you ).

I do have a seasonal pass, not an AP. I wish! But don't assume I get to go whenever I wish again!! he he. I live about 45 minutes away. While we are a dual income family, our income is still very budgeted and limited. We make it about every 1.5 months between Sept through May. Depending on gas budget, if we have the extra for parking, etc. Thankfully we CAN bring in our own food.

So I don't think it's necessarily about that [for me anyway]. Even when I have visited other places in the past, I just didn't let it bother me. But I realize everyone is different.

Oh to be able to go every weekend though. That would be bliss!!!

[texas211]

Just curious. Do you have children or children with special needs? If you do, do you always just "start over" if they have to go to the bathroom?

Yes, as kids aren't a pass to do what you want. Like if junior starts crying at restaurant, time to go. Others don't go out to eat to hear the crying.

Also, i've had line cutters, loud folks at the resorts, etc. You confront them, and they want to stand their ground, well, sometimes, there aren't many options but... Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself.

[Terra]

Yes, as kids aren't a pass to do what you want. Like if junior starts crying at restaurant, time to go. Others don't go out to eat to hear the crying.

Also, i've had line cutters, loud folks at the resorts, etc. You confront them, and they want to stand their ground, well, sometimes, there aren't many options but... Sometimes you have to stand up for yourself.

I'm not saying I think it's right for sure all the time. But I try to be understanding and take the higher ground personally. I just let them pass, like a previous poster said, it only adds another minute at most to my time.

As for kids crying in a restaurant. You probably wouldn't like being with my family. We don't automatically leave. We try to work through it as a family. And while people may judge and have judged my crying child and my parenting skills, what they don't see "behind the scenes" is an SPD/developmentally delayed child who has quite a time understanding his own self, let alone the world around him. So there can be more to the story in any given situation.

[lizzi6692]

IMO line cutting is always wrong. It has nothing to do with the amount of time you lose, its rude. I'm not going to let it ruin my vacation, but there is a middle ground between letting it completely stress me out and being a doormat. I'm not going to let people do whatever they want just because they think they're better than everyone else.

As for kids crying in a restaurant. You probably wouldn't like being with my family. We don't automatically leave. We try to work through it as a family. And while people may judge and have judged my crying child and my parenting skills, what they don't see "behind the scenes" is an SPD/developmentally delayed child who has quite a time understanding his own self, let alone the world around him. So there can be more to the story in any given situation.

My reaction to your post depends on knowing a little more. When you say you try to work through it do you mean for a few minutes or do you sit there for half an hour or more trying to calm him down? If that's the case than you are being rude. I understand that he has issues, but if you can't get him to calm down, maybe you should consider not taking him out to dinner or only taking him out to places where people should expect screaming children.

[Terra]

IMO line cutting is always wrong. It has nothing to do with the amount of time you lose, its rude. I'm not going to let it ruin my vacation, but there is a middle ground between letting it completely stress me out and being a doormat. I'm not going to let people do whatever they want just because they think they're better than everyone else.


My reaction to your post depends on knowing a little more. When you say you try to work through it do you mean for a few minutes or do you sit there for half an hour or more trying to calm him down? If that's the case than you are being rude. I understand that he has issues, but if you can't get him to calm down, maybe you should consider not taking him out to dinner or only taking him out to places where people should expect screaming children.

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In the end, it doesn't really matter to me what others think or how "rude" they think I'm being. If it's beyond 4-5 minutes, we talk a walk outside then come back when he's calm. I refuse for my child to live a shut-in life or only go to "certain" places because people think he should only go to those places just because he has special needs. While I understand when people say "I don't go out to eat to hear children cry"...I *could* easily be just as harsh and say then don't go to a place that has high chairs and boosts "family restaurant." More than anything, I'm saddened most by people's lack of understand and compassion for their fellow human being.

And while everyone is different, unless one has a special needs child it's truly hard to understand.

[JWB3]

Enough already!! Would some moderator PLEASE lock this thread down?

And now let's all get back to thinking about what a great place WDW is!

[Terra]

Enough already!! Would some moderator PLEASE lock this thread down?

And now let's all get back to thinking about what a great place WDW is!

I hear that! Speaking of, I'm sad I didn't get to ride Toy Story Mania when I was there last! The wait was 2 hours and FP were out by 10am! My boys were even sadder!