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Wait and See
I hope and trust they will have this all worked out by our Nov11 arrival.
For me it's this simple: If "early entry" at about 4pm is allowed - we'll buy tickets at the "day of" price and attend MVMCP on Nov11. If WDW is "experimenting" with no party entry with event ticket until 7pm, we won't go (period).
I realize gate price is more than advance purchase but we've been "stuck" going to a rained-all-evening MVMCP once before with advance purchase tickets and before you say "Sold Out" let me say 2 things: (1) Do we really think MVMCP will sell out on Thursday, November 11th? and (2) if it does it will be a crowd we'll be happy to not be part of.
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I am not sure why people are getting worked up. The ticket you purchase states entrance at 7PM. If you are only entering with that pass, then 7PM should be the earliest you get in. Now, if you are using a pass to get in the park during regular operating hours and have a party pass, then you get in whenever you want.
1 Week at Wyndham Bonnet Creek 06/17/17 - 06/24/17; 1 Week at Orange Lake Resort 06/24/17 - 06/30/17; 1 week at OKW 12/03/17 - 12/10/17
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Originally Posted by BigRedDad
I am not sure why people are getting worked up. The ticket you purchase states entrance at 7PM. If you are only entering with that pass, then 7PM should be the earliest you get in. Now, if you are using a pass to get in the park during regular operating hours and have a party pass, then you get in whenever you want.
This, btw, is what I mean by forum users making up the rules own their own whims... in case anyone was wondering.
Newsflash: It's up to Disney, not you, to decide when you can get into the Magic Kingdom for a party that starts at 7pm(THIS is what the ticket says). My ticket to Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World a couple weeks ago said 7:15 was it unfair that they let me in at 6:45?
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Originally Posted by W24toISMdirect
This, btw, is what I mean by forum users making up the rules own their own whims... in case anyone was wondering.
Newsflash: It's up to Disney, not you, to decide when you can get into the Magic Kingdom for a party that starts at 7pm(THIS is what the ticket says). My ticket to Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World a couple weeks ago said 7:15 was it unfair that they let me in at 6:45?
I believe the reason for all the discussion is that in the past, Disney has allowed ticket holders early entrance. I agree that 7:00 means 7:00. It is nice; however, to get the extra time in the parks. Also, they may lose out on those not able to enter early for their ADRs.
OS 12/76,7/82,3/85
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POR 8/95,8/98,11/00,1/4,10/10
AS 3/211/3,11/5,11/7,11/12
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OKW 12/4,10/11
POP 5/6
CS 5/6,12/9
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POFQ 3/11
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AUL 2/15
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At the end of the day, Disney is going to let people enter early. Will it be 4PM, 5PM, or 6PM, who knows right now. What gets me is people complaining about what they bought. "If I don't get something for free, I won't go!" This is ridiculous. This is what little Johnny says in kindergarten about taking his ball and going home. Trust me, WDW could care less if you go or not. They are not losing money if you don't go. There are plenty of others that are.
If you want to make a point/statement, get 10,000 families to do the exact same thing. Most people have multi-day tickets. Adding an extra day cost ~$5. If $5 breaks the bank, then people should really rethink their investment strategies and personal finances before spending $1000s on a Disney vacation.
I am not trying to attack anyone, but it will definitely come out that way. People need to rethink where the spend their money. If there is that much resentment for spending the money, why spend it?
1 Week at Wyndham Bonnet Creek 06/17/17 - 06/24/17; 1 Week at Orange Lake Resort 06/24/17 - 06/30/17; 1 week at OKW 12/03/17 - 12/10/17
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I'm not trying to get something for free at all. My point is very simply that I bought my tickets based on what was previously done and scheduled the entire start of my trip around it. The CM that I purchased from said there was early entry at 4pm (I bought these tickets right when they went on sale) and now there is a change. This will be a big issue for me with such small children and our current plans. Had 7 always been the direct time, I would have no issue at all and would have planned differently. I'm disappointed but I will have to work with whatever time we can get in.
Heidi (DS16, DD14 and the reluctant DH)
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I do not have the actual tickets that I purchased. I looked at the WDW website ticket information and there is nothing definitive. It states "Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party takes place from 7 p.m. to midnight. " I would love to see what is actually printed on the ticket because that is what Disney is legally obligated to. Logic clearly shows that they should only allow you in at 7PM. See the following scenario:
Early Entrance at 4PM: Is it fair to the people that have daily passes and paid for those extra 3 hours to have you there without a pass for those 3 hours? What do you feel about everyone without a MNSSHP or MVMCP pass staying there from 7PM to midnight and not "participate" in any of the party benefits or rides? The sword cuts both ways.
I think there should be a standard policy for nights of parties like these.
#1 Park closes at 6PM to insure all patrons have exited. Stores, dining, rides, etc close completely at 6PM and people are escorted out.
#2 A section, say Tomorrowland, is shut down at 5PM to insure day visitors are exited from that area. People in MK with a day pass and party pass get moved into that area at 6PM for mix and mingle, rides, etc.
#3 Party goers that were not in the park prior to closing with the day pass get let in at 7PM as per the ticket.
1 Week at Wyndham Bonnet Creek 06/17/17 - 06/24/17; 1 Week at Orange Lake Resort 06/24/17 - 06/30/17; 1 week at OKW 12/03/17 - 12/10/17
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I guess the only way we'll know for sure is when people start going to the MNSSHPs next week, and reporting back to us on entrance info.
I can see both sides of the argument--if we've always been allowed early entry (4pm), it's kind of rough to have that removed with no warning or anything. At the same time, the ticket DOES say 7pm...
I just can't visualize what the main gate will look like if they start enforcing the 7pm start time (which is why I think they started letting people in earlier).
Christi
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2013: May--POR
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Not Worked Up
WDW fans debating what the rules should be is a pointless as me commenting on WDW fans debating. (Huh?)
Closing the MK at 6pm or even earlier would make for an even shorter day and a bad end of the day experience for day guests to the MK.
but
If I buy a hard ticket for an evening party at the MK I don't want to fight through a HUGE crowd of non-ticketed people staying over for special parades and fireworks.
Heck, I could debate this issue with myself.
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I guess we shall find out in 3 days what the official policy is.
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Originally Posted by Goes4FastPass
If I buy a hard ticket for an evening party at the MK I don't want to fight through a HUGE crowd of non-ticketed people staying over for special parades and fireworks.
Next Trip-Jan 2012 POFQ! & 2nd DCL! Sailing To The Caribbean!
Previous Trips
12/'10 CBR & 1st DCL
12/'09 CBR
12/'08 *1st On Property*- POFQ
12/'07 *1st Christmas Trip*
04/'06 1st trip back
11/'91* 6 yrs old, My 1st Trip To WDW*
ºoº "Let Us Not Forget,It All Started With A Mouse" ºoº
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Originally Posted by BigRedDad
I do not have the actual tickets that I purchased. I looked at the WDW website ticket information and there is nothing definitive. It states "Mickey's Not-So-Scary Halloween Party takes place from 7 p.m. to midnight. " I would love to see what is actually printed on the ticket because that is what Disney is legally obligated to.
We have e-tickets that I printed off. There is no mention of any entry time whatsoever - 7:00, or 4:00, or anything else. Only the date of the party.
Mike
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They got in at 4pm today!!!! All our worry was for nothing.
Maggie
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I figured all this wailing and gnashing of teeth was much ado about nothing. It's just too difficult logistically to clear the park and start over with a new entry between 6-7. They'd have to close at 4 and there's no way that was going to happen.
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If the money was there it would happen... I would have loved to have seen the wild and crazy people waiting to get in all blocking the exit/entrance to the Monorails and boats.
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This is from an article from a writer on another Disney website. He visited the MNSSHP yesterday.
"For some reason, Disney is telling people that they cannot enter the Magic Kingdom using their MNSSHP ticket until the official opening time of 7pm.
I entered the Magic Kingdom yesterday using my MNSSHP at 4:02pm and the park was already set up to accommodate early arrivals. The east tunnel under the train station was for "party" guests entering the park and the west tunnel was for "day" guests leaving the park.
Technically, Disney doesn’t have to let anyone in until the official time, but it’s in their best interest to accommodate early arrivals. They couldn’t handle the crowds if all 10,000 party goers arrived at the same time.
I cannot definitively tell you that you’ll be granted early entrance, but I seriously doubt that Disney will keep you out without extenuating circumstances."
Next Trip-Jan 2012 POFQ! & 2nd DCL! Sailing To The Caribbean!
Previous Trips
12/'10 CBR & 1st DCL
12/'09 CBR
12/'08 *1st On Property*- POFQ
12/'07 *1st Christmas Trip*
04/'06 1st trip back
11/'91* 6 yrs old, My 1st Trip To WDW*
ºoº "Let Us Not Forget,It All Started With A Mouse" ºoº
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