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Again, while I am not offended by what the shirt said, I wouldn't wear it either.
Personally I don't want to walk around with a shirt on that says "ta-tas" on it
I see where you are coming from with the point of "is it really necessary to use the slang" and it's not, but t-shirts with edgy sayings are all the rage right now and this shirt fits into that category while touting an awareness for a worthy cause.
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I don't find it offensive at all although I can see how some people might. I think it's an effective way to get the message out there to girls of that age group. If my DD's (ages 8 and 13) asked what ta-ta's are, I would explain it to them - I don't see it as a big deal.
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I would explain it to them - I don't see it as a big deal.
I don't see what the big deal is either. If they ask I would simply explain- it's just a body part.
Overall, I don't think its offensive for that girl to wear that t-shirt and if it were me wearing that t-shirt and some lady came over to me lecturing me about putting on something else I would be offended- who knows who that girl knew that was affected by breast cancer? I've seen people wear much more offensive and revealing clothing than that at WDW.
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Originally Posted by pink
Overall, I don't think its offensive for that girl to wear that t-shirt and if it were me wearing that t-shirt and some lady came over to me lecturing me about putting on something else I would be offended- who knows who that girl knew that was affected by breast cancer? I've seen people wear much more offensive and revealing clothing than that at WDW.
I agree. How would you feel if you spoke to the girl and you found out she lost a family member to this terrible disease? I see the t-shirt as bringing awareness to the disease. As women, this is one of the things we need to be totally aware of because it can hit hit anyone at anytime. You don't have to be an adult.
I'm really sorry, but this is a very sensitive subject with me and we really need to get the message out, to women and girls of all ages.
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I guarantee you that if the t-shirt had said something as straight forward as "breast cancer awareness", that woman would have still complained. Part of the reason that slogan was created was to grab people's attention and get an important women's health issue out in the open, instead of keeping it as something that people don't talk about. I understand that not everyone is as comfortable with that and that's okay. But personally I don't see anything vulgar about it.
If a child were to ask a question about it, I think it would be a good opportunity (depending on their age) to talk about it. If my son had asked me when he was younger I would have taken him aside and given him a simple explanation.
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Originally Posted by Jasper
I also agree that it is tacky and not in the best of taste, especially worn at WDW. However, for the offended party to carry on for 25 minutes about it was also tacky. If they felt that strongly about it then they should have VERY nicely told the wearer that they found it offensive and then let it go. Or better yet, they should have gone into the nearest gift shop (you know there is one within 5 feet of any location in WDW anyway) and buy the offender a nice Disney shirt and give it to the offender as a gift and ask her to consider going into a restroom and changing!
Are you joking????
I disagree wholeheartedly with both of these suggestions. I am a firm believer in minding your own business if something isn't really affecting you, and to start something up about a t-shirt is...well....offensive.
Why is "ta-ta" a "no-no" anyway??
Don't little kids have names like that for lots of different body parts? I surely didn't expect my kids to use the proper anatomical terms when they were younger.
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I'm not offended by the shirt...
here's my take...
If this woman was so offended by the ta-tas shirt that she went on about it for 25 minutes, then it will probably be one of her more vivid memories of the trip. Hopefully, she gets home and retells the story to anyone who'll listen...she'll inadvertantly be promoting awareness. Kind of along the lines of "all publicity is good publicity."
I bet that if the young woman had been wearing a simple "breast cancer awareness" T-shirt, the offended woman probably wouldn't even have noticed it. Which, I think, is the point of the ta-tas shirt.
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Originally Posted by Jasper
If they felt that strongly about it then they should have VERY nicely told the wearer that they found it offensive and then let it go. Or better yet, they should have gone into the nearest gift shop (you know there is one within 5 feet of any location in WDW anyway) and buy the offender a nice Disney shirt and give it to the offender as a gift and ask her to consider going into a restroom and changing!
Um no if they felt that strongly about it they should just quietly stew about it. It's not their place to suggest that this girl change her shirt. What kind of people find themselves that wrapped up in someone else's t-shirt while at WDW?
Even if the shirt is not your taste surely you can appreciate the meaning behind the message. I absolutely think that it's more eye catching and more noticable than a shirt that just said breast cancer awareness. Hey, we're all talking about it so it's done the job it was intended to do. If my kid asked about ta-tas I'd explain. It's no big deal. Talking about boobs is okay.
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I find it more rude that this woman went on about the shirt for 25 minutes. If that expression is the most distressing thing in her life, I guess she's a very lucky woman.
As for the suggestion about buying her a shirt and telling/asking her to go change, that would be even more out of line.
We go to the summer concert series at the Hatch Shell here in Boston and let me tell you, some of the things you see would make you cringe. But my sisters and I quietly poke fun at them between ourselves. We don't rant and rave for 25 minutes for everyone to hear.
I don't think there was anything wrong with that shirt.
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Originally Posted by Ian
Here's my take on it ....
Do I find it offensive? No, not really. But it is tasteless, and I just don't understand why it's necessary to be tacky in order to raise awareness for breast cancer.
I actually find it doubly tasteless to wear a shirt like that in Disney World with so many kids around. I really don't feel like standing in line with my DD6 and having to answer the question, "Daddy, what are ta-tas?"
Originally Posted by Ian
I realize it's not like the end of the world or anything, but I just don't get the need for the coarseness of the shirt. I actually find that it cheapens the cause to a degree.
Why not just make a nice, tasteful shirt that says, "Breast Cancer Awareness" on it or something? What do you gain by adding the tasteless slang to the shirt?
I dunno ... I find this to be just another part of the overall coarsening of our society. I just don't see the benefit ... keep it clean and more people will be interested.
Look at that woman that was offended. Did the shirt do anything to help her become more interested in fighting breast cancer? A potentially offensive shirt alienates some people, while a nice, tasteful shirt is going to help your cause across the board.
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This thread made me laugh, because my nickname as a child was Ta Ta! My little cousin couldn't say Sonja, so I became a big boob obviously!
And there are far worse slang terms for breasts...in fact, a few that I find offensive. I personally find "ta ta" funny.
I guess some of you would have found my young daughter and I offensive recently. We were at a Health Expo and one of the stands was giving out stickers with the words "feel your boobies" and their internet site. Since we have a good friend that has terminal breast cancer we thought it was great to wear those stickers on our shirts. Any time we can raise awareness we're glad to do it.
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Originally Posted by Ian
Why not just make a nice, tasteful shirt that says, "Breast Cancer Awareness" on it or something? What do you gain by adding the tasteless slang to the shirt?.
...because people would not be talking about it. Getting people to question things is the first step in educating them.
That said -- I would not wear the shirt, but I would chuckle when I saw it -- and if my sons questionned its meaning, I would tell them that ta-ta's are breasts and that too many people die every year from Breast Cancer and other cancers.
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I've see the shirt. I really don't take any offense to it at all. If I had a child that was old enough to read and ask the question...I'd welcome it.
A "breast cancer" shirt says very "little". I think this shirt has done a WONDERFUL thing. For 25 minutes people started talking about the shirt. If this is the shirt I've seen (I'm sure it is)...it's pretty unmistakeable that it's advertising breast cancer awareness. Humor too is a great advertisement.
I know if my child was 5 or 6 and asked what a "ta-ta" was...It'd be simple...I'd tell him straight out what they were...maybe even throw in that the shirt was telling all ladies to take care of themselves to keep from getting very sick. 99% of the time that would end the discussion right there.
I think it's absolutely fantastic that they've found a campaign that even teens can relate too.
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I first saw this shirt on my 7 yr. old cousin last summer. We were visiting my wife's parents and she was outside playing with my 3 kids. (DD13, DD11, DS7). My DD11, who is the most naive of the 3, comes in with tears in her eyes, also the most sensitive. She just found out what the shirt meant. You see my wife's cousin of 45 had died of cancer the previous year and my 7 yr. old cousin was making a statement about breast cancer or any cancer awareness. I have no problem with that whatsoever.
If someone would've asked this girl standing in line for the 25 min. she may have explained that either she or a close friend lost a mother, grandmother, aunt, sister, whomever to breast cancer. Now who would be offended?
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I really have never understood why breasts are meant to be "rude".
6YearOld - Mummy what are ta-tas?
Mummy - Well, sweetheart, they're a sillyish word for breasts.
I mean....what?.....Am I missing something here?
Although I personally have never heard the phrase ta-tas before. Not a British phrase. Maybe it could be, though. I try it and see what happens the next time they come up in conversation.
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Although I personally have never heard the phrase ta-tas before. Not a British phrase. Maybe it could be, though. I try it and see what happens the next time they come up in conversation.
It is often prefaced with "bodacious".... as in "Wow! What bodacious ta-tas!" ...
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As someone who is getting ready to undergo breast cancer surgery and treatment (I'm stage 0 so my outcome is great!) I do not find the shirt offensive at all. My guess (like most of you) is that she has personal experience with this awful disease.
I just may get one and wear it to WDW to celebrate when I am on the other side of this inconvenience!
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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought the shirt was a cute way to promote breast cancer awareness! I mean really, BC has become such a part of our society, who hasn't seen the commercials on tv promoting all the walks, runs, etc.. I just thought for her to go on and on when most kids probably wouldn't know what it means and probably most aren't really paying attention to those things while in Disney anyway, was a bit ridiculous. BC awareness has come a long way, but still not long enough, and if turning it to slang to get the younger generation involved and aware, then I am all for it. The biggest hope for survival is early detection, and yet people still aren't doing it, so if this helps one woman or man (yes men can get BC too) go home and do a self exam, then I am all for it!!! I mean I was only 17 when my mom passed. She missed seeing me go off to my prom, my HS graduation, my wedding, and she will never get to see any of her grandchildren. If this "offensive" shirt will help one woman so she doesn't have to miss out on seeing her kids grow up, then I am all for it! Thanks for the support!
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This one is hard for me. Because I do not find the shirt offensive. I have no problem explaining the shirt ot my 5 year old daughters. I also agree, that it gets peoples attention.
However, I do agree with Ian in that, our country has gotten so 'okay' with 'sexifying our children' (I know that is not a word, but I am sure you get what I mean.). I assume the Ta Ta wording was right on the Breasts. Just as when I see all those young kids running around with words like "cutie" or "hot stuff" on their behinds, I think it is tasteless.
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Originally Posted by WDWFanatic
As someone who is getting ready to undergo breast cancer surgery and treatment (I'm stage 0 so my outcome is great!) I do not find the shirt offensive at all. My guess (like most of you) is that she has personal experience with this awful disease.
I just may get one and wear it to WDW to celebrate when I am on the other side of this inconvenience!
I just wanted to say good luck to you with your surgery and treatment! Thank goodness it was caught early, and your right, I have done so much research, your outcome is fantastic!! My thoughts and prayers are with you, and I too might go get one of these shirts too, now!!
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