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Carousel of Progress to be replaced by 2009?
I've been hearing a lot of rumors lately that WDW's Carousel of Progress and Disneyland's Innoventions will both be replaced with a video screen attraction based on Pixar's Wall-E. Does anybody have more information concerning this matter?
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As far as Innoventions in DL, I read a report yesterday that they have closed the lower portion of Innoventions and that Microsoft is installing a new exhibit in this space. Whether its tied to Wall-E is not clear.
As for COP, rumors of an Incredibles ride and other attractions have been floating around the net for a while. Nothing of any substance has surfaced thus far.
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I thought Walt specificly requested that CoP stay in operation? Well, I supose if he did request that and if they did want to replace it with something else, I guess they could always move it to a different park, Paris or whatever, I think his request was only that it stayed in Operation right?
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I highly doubt that would plan to close an attraction to replace it with an attraction based on an unreleased movie. Wall-E could be the biggest flop ever for all we know. I believe this is pure speculation on the orignator of the rumour. For now I would really take this with a grain of salt.
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Originally Posted by Toad
... a video screen attraction based on Pixar's Wall-E.Does anybody have more information concerning this matter?
According to few sources with connections to Imagineering, the Wall-E based attraction is currently a conceptual project and has not been greenlit.
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COP is such a tradition, it would be terrible if it was removed.
As old as it is its still so cool to imagine how advanced it was for the time it was originally made.
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This is not directed at the OP but I loathe these CoP shutdown or replacement rumors. The loss of CoP is a thought I don't care to entertain.
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im afraid it may happen....
sorta got that feelin when had dinner w Imagineer in Sept
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When I was there in November '06 they had just renovated our theater section. I hope the CoP stays. It was Walt Disney's pride ever since he debuted it at the World's Fair. It is about as "classic" as anything in all of the Magic Kingdom!
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I think it is a shame that these new movies come out and we are subjected to new attractions based on them. Can we PLEASE keep some tradition at WDW? It can't all be about the newest and latest thing. Remember, Walt wanted a place where families can have fun together? Keep some older, cherished attractions.
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While anything can happen at any time with The Disney Company the stories about CoP closing down have been a dime a dozen for many years now. The stories really pick up when CoP goes on a shorter operating schedule or when it closes for maintenance. Until Disney itself announces something official there is no point in getting too worried about it.
By the way, one way to get any ride, including CoP to stay open is for Disney to see that LOTS of people are visiting it. As we all know CoP is not exactly the first attraction most people run for when they get to the Magic Kingdom. If all of us who really love CoP can get just a couple more people to visit it each time we go that would increase the odds that it stays open. Of course that is still no guarantee that it will stay open but it can't hurt.
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How was the COP extra fastpass program working with crowds? Was it bringing in more people to the ride or did people just discard them? I didn't see or recieve any fastpasses to it on my last couple of trips. On a good day you can get half of the theather full and if they would actually advertise the thing just a little more it would get the attention it deserves.
If they wanted to move the ride, Epcot would be perfect for it since it deals with how technology and how everything has progressed through the years.
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I would be soooo sad if CoP closed! Maybe I'm naieve, but I would also be very suprised. It seems like CoP is a tradition that imagineers would preserve. I hope so!
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Is there a COP at Disneyland?
Which one is the "Original"?
just wondering...
I think it is a cool ride too, but we have to admit that it is pretty corny...
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Why do they have to replace anything to put in a new ride? Wasn't part of the reasoning for purchasing 40+ square miles of land to never be restricted for expansion?
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Originally Posted by Frog
Is there a COP at Disneyland?
Which one is the "Original"?
just wondering...
I think it is a cool ride too, but we have to admit that it is pretty corny...
"It's a great big beautiful tomorrow..."
The COP at Disneyland was moved to WDW and the location at DLR became "America Sings." It is currently Innoventions, with many of the America Sings characters residing in Splash Mountain at DLR.
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Originally Posted by Disney_Barbie
I thought Walt specificly requested that CoP stay in operation? Well, I supose if he did request that and if they did want to replace it with something else, I guess they could always move it to a different park, Paris or whatever, I think his request was only that it stayed in Operation right?
Walt Disney....seemed to never think he would die....but beyond that, he had rapidly progressing lung cancer that killed him within a short amount of time after it was discovered....he didn't actually have enough time to really take care of any of his affairs.....his brother had too
So by all accounts...it would've been highly unlikely that he had any standing orders on how to use theme park rides....remember that the Carousel had only recently arrived in California when he died in 1966....and WDW was swampland with barely a bulldozer moving at the time....
I don't believe there is any way that he "requested" or ordered anything about one thing in all of his dealings....
Disney has been hesitant to remove anything with original Disney stamps ever since....hence perhaps the perception that they are acting on somekind of marching orders from walt disney...
By all the accounts I've seen...Disney was consumed by his EPCOT city and the Mineral King Ski Resort in the time leading up to his death...
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Originally Posted by SignguyTom
Why do they have to replace anything to put in a new ride? Wasn't part of the reasoning for purchasing 40+ square miles of land to never be restricted for expansion?
the service areas of the parks at WDW ring the outside of the existing park footprints...therefore ride "sprawl" is not a feasible option....
There's also operational expenses, staffing, maintenance and a bunch of other issues that become greater as expansion proceeds...
So no....adding without subtraction is not a workable plan.
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Originally Posted by lockedoutlogic
So no....adding without subtraction is not a workable plan.
Actually right now it is a possibility, because they replaced 20K with something Pooh's playground which is so much smaller, and was supposed be temporary when it was built.
I love COP, but IMHO it should be moved to FutureWorld. I have always thought it would make an excellent addition to an expanded Universe of Energy pavilion.
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