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    This is rIdiculous. I guess I was naive to think that gun issues were not a problem on DW property.

    I don't care who you are, a "law abiding" permit gun-carrying person or an off-duty cop, nobody should be carrying a gun on to DW property. That is just irresponsible and borderline insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicofdisney View Post
    Yep, that's way different than what legal carriers around here believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicofdisney View Post
    Yep, that's way different than what legal carriers around here believe.
    And, there's no Second Amendment (or similar act) if effect in Canada. That's one big difference between the U.S. and other western countries.
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    After reading about the story and hearing peoples thoughts here are mine.

    First it doesn't matter if its a hollow point bullet or not, it's still a loaded gun. If you have a license to carry your gun it's going to be loaded. Not much of a point of having a gun on you without bullets if you need it. What is he supposed to do, throw it??

    Second, being a responsible gun holder he should have had it in a holster, not in a pocket where it may fall out. Maybe he should talk to Plaxico Burress about carrying a gun without a holster. No holster in sweat pants at the club, ended up shooting himself in the foot and some jail time. Once again...Not Responsible

    Third, as a Responsible gun holder, he should know where he CAN and CAN NOT carry a gun. Just because you have a piece of paper saying you can carry, doesn't mean you can carry everywhere.

    I really think there should be a test people have to take to buy a gun or become a parent. There are plenty of people out there with one or both, who are careless and irresponsible. Neither of which should be handled that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BraddyB View Post
    Third, as a Responsible gun holder, he should know where he CAN and CAN NOT carry a gun. Just because you have a piece of paper saying you can carry, doesn't mean you can carry everywhere.
    That is why this isn't a political or philosophical question in my mind. This man wasn't responsible. No matter your ideology, no matter what you think about gun rights in America, nobody would ever call this idiot responsible.

    There is simply no reason for a guest to carry a gun into a Disney theme park. An accident like this is unforgivable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jared View Post
    That is why this isn't a political or philosophical question in my mind. This man wasn't responsible. No matter your ideology, no matter what you think about gun rights in America, nobody would ever call this idiot responsible.

    There is simply no reason for a guest to carry a gun into a Disney theme park. An accident like this is unforgivable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicofdisney View Post
    I believe they're probably way more concealed firearms in the park than most would want to believe. Disney simply does nothing to prevent them. I also don't think anyone with a CWP is paranoid or stupid for carrying. However, this guy lacked serious common sense. I haven't read the article, but someone mentioned his gun slipped from his pocket? That's straightforward stupidity and it makes the rest of the permit carriers looks as inane.
    Yes! CWP is a wonderful thing a lot of my friends and family have, but that doesn't mean anything if you are stupid and don't pay attention in elementary gun safety...I think this guy is a total jerk who makes the rest of CWP people look crazy and dangerous but hopefully Disney can do something about this, I don't mind not having a weapon at WDW its one of the only places I feel safe enough to not feel a need for anything like that. I figure worst case scenario if I have to go out randomly, somewhere like WDW would be the best place, at least I'd go out happy lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDuckRocks View Post
    Disclaimer - I really know nothing about guns, except for what I see on TV or read about.
    The thing about this I simply can not get my mind around are the hollow point bullets. To me that just seems like someone who has taken his own safety way overboard, if that really was his intent. But for all I know that could well be what everyone is using now.
    Hollow points are very hardcore bullets, the are the same concept as a regular bullet except these sort of splinter out causing more damage, good for personal or home security, even more level of crazy to have in WDW, but I do know most people are doing Hollow Points in personal safety guns now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Hollow points are very hardcore bullets, the are the same concept as a regular bullet except these sort of splinter out causing more damage, good for personal or home security, even more level of crazy to have in WDW, but I do know most people are doing Hollow Points in personal safety guns now.
    This is not entirely true. Hollow points expand when they hit an object so that they do the most damage while not penetrating all the way through. They are actually safer to carry in a crowded place then a full metal jacket which will penetrate an object and keep on going. This, however still does not mean an individual should carry a weapon on Disney property. This person is a disgrace to CCW holders and its jerks like this that ruin it for the people who carry safely and responsibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coopers431 View Post
    I don't post much on this site but I felt I had to respond to this post. I am a CCW holder as well and carry every where I LEGALLY can and no I am not afraid the government is out to get me. It is to protect my self and my family. I would never dream of carrying in a crowded amusement park when there are already incredible safety measures in place especially Disney. I believe this man was extremely irresponsible and should have lost his CCW permit. As to hollow points being more dangerous it is actually quite the opposite. They expand so that they would not penetrate and possibly hit an innocent bystander (as gruesome as this sounds).
    Well said. It's sad that people who don't understand or don't agree with the right to bear arms try to portray people who do as paranoid idiots. Maybe it's because they're not completely secure with their own thoughts on the subject or just haven't educated themselves enough. There's really no need to insult or belittle because of a difference of opinion. It just creates hard feelings and a lack of open communication and understanding. It hinders progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coopers431 View Post
    This is not entirely true. Hollow points expand when they hit an object so that they do the most damage while not penetrating all the way through. They are actually safer to carry in a crowded place then a full metal jacket which will penetrate an object and keep on going. This, however still does not mean an individual should carry a weapon on Disney property. This person is a disgrace to CCW holders and its jerks like this that ruin it for the people who carry safely and responsibly.
    Thanks for clarifying
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boost View Post
    So now, going to WDW may be like going to the airport. I'm not complaining, just stating a fact. Get to the front gates, put bags on conveyors with guards possibly doing spot checks on people (can hear the complaining now) and walk through a metal detector and/or the thing that blasts air on you to detect explosives. Maybe even a K-9 unit nearby?

    Upon passing the security check, guests will then proceed to the NextGen sensors and THEN hit the park. Does anyone else envision this? Hey, if it saves lives, I'm for it. Yes, it will make lines longer and you guys who are closer to this than others will likely have some insight.

    It's such a shame that this is where some in our society are, mentally. There's always someone who wants to ruin it for the rest of us. I just can't imagine anyone wanting to hurt kids. As a parent of three, it's just a concept that I can't comprehend.
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    What is it with Florida pistol owners? A boy found a gun in a Tampa Movie House toilet Stall. Do these people just toss their weapon in their pockets like a wallet or keys?

    Come on. There is a time and place, I feel Disney is not the place for sure.

    If a person dose feel the need to have a pistol on them they need to learn how to properly handle and holster their weapon and no matter what be in control of it at all times.
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