Fantasyland too "girlie," Frontierland Could Be the Balancer

[GothMickey]

Word around the Disney Company is many are not thrilled that the Fantasyland expansion leans heavily on the girlie side. The location of Dumbo and the addition of Pixie Hollow flip flop daily. However, FRONTIERLAND could be the land that provides the balance. Word is executives are seriously considering an "expansion" of sorts in Frontierland. Just what could be coming? Who knows. But talk has centered on Tom Sawyer Island and the patch of land by Big Thunder Mountain Railroad. Club D23 has posted about this. Check it out.

[Tekneek]

I hope they don't axe the Fantasyland expansion because it is "too girlie." That would be really absurd.

Expanding Frontierland? Western River Expedition here we come!

[brownie]

I hope they don't axe the Fantasyland expansion because it is "too girlie." That would be really absurd.

I believe it's a little late for Disney to be considering cancelling the Fantasyland expansion.

[BellesRose]

An expansion to Frontierland would be wonderful! But what about Liberty Square? I think that area needs something...the Haunted Mansion is my favorite ride ever, but that's the only thing there that I do. At least there's always tons to do in Fantasyland and Frontierland.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Pixie Hollow is the only thing in the Fantasyland refurbishment that may be getting the axe... As GM said, higher ups feel it is too "girlie..." Whatever this means to FLE, we'll have to wait and see... Um, what is the western themed river ride in Hong Kong Disneyland??? I think I read somewhere about that being a possibility... But it is all conjecture right now... +

[JPL]

I have been hearing that Mickey's Toontown Fair might be spared the wrecking ball. Plans are calling to add Dumbo and change it to a circus theme with the Circus coming to Toontown. Not sure how accurate this is but there has been some rumors floating about this.

[DizneyFreak2002]

I have been hearing that Mickey's Toontown Fair might be spared the wrecking ball. Plans are calling to add Dumbo and change it to a circus theme with the Circus coming to Toontown. Not sure how accurate this is but there has been some rumors floating about this.

I hope not... Demolish it!!!! Plus, they are still working on the M&G areas on Main Street... Toontown Fair is going... The last thing to go, but gone nonetheless....

[plutoboy]

I'm sorry but when the original poster refers to Club 23 are they speaking about Disney23? I was interested in reading the article. Have to admit I'm a little behind on things.

[BrerGnat]

Pixie Hollow IS girlie. They have one in Disneyland.

Disneyland also has a "Princess Fantasy Faire", which is a combo Princess Meet and greet, improvisational BBB, and princess merchandise EXPLOSION.

To balance this, Disneyland's Tom Sawyer island has been, for some time, "Pirate's Lair". I assume any talk about updating WDW's Tom Sawyer Island would result in its renovation to something similar. Also, they have Tarzan's Treehouse, Indiana Jones Adventure, the Nemo Subs, Star Tours, etc.

I am all for them leaving Mickey's Toontown Fair as is, and adding the Dumbo "circus" over there. I agree that the Fantasyland refurb is overly "girly" and not well balanced by other aspects of Magic Kingdom.

They would do well to shadow Disneyland somewhat, which is extremely well balanced as far as "girly" and "boy friendly" attractions are concerned.

[DizneyFreak2002]

I'm sorry but when the original poster refers to Club 23 are they speaking about Disney23? I was interested in reading the article. Have to admit I'm a little behind on things.

Google it.... Like Intercot, it is an unofficial fan site... However, they aren't the only site where members posted that rumor... others have well.. Hmm, wonder if there really is anything to it???

[Tekneek]

I don't mind if Fantasyland tilts more toward the "girlie" side with this stuff. The Dumbo stuff is probably more boyish, although it would appeal to both.

When it comes to big problems at WDW, I'm more concerned about how Tomorrowland at MK and Future World at Epcot have lost their way.

[DizneyFreak2002]

I don't mind if Fantasyland tilts more toward the "girlie" side with this stuff. The Dumbo stuff is probably more boyish, although it would appeal to both.

When it comes to big problems at WDW, I'm more concerned about how Tomorrowland at MK and Future World at Epcot have lost their way.

I agree with you about Tomorrowland and Future World... We need Tomorrowland fixed... Imagination, Wonders of Life, even to some degree Universe of Energy need to be fixed.... I will also venture to say DHS and AK need more before Frontierland gets any expansion...

[Tekneek]

I will also venture to say DHS and AK need more before Frontierland gets any expansion...

Unless they're going to do something huge in Frontierland, like reviving one of the old Thunder Mesa / Western River Expedition type concepts, I am 100% in agreement... On second thought, I'm not even sure I want them pouring that kind of money into Frontierland for that...but I could be sold for something grand like that.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Unless they're going to do something huge in Frontierland, like reviving one of the old Thunder Mesa / Western River Expedition type concepts, I am 100% in agreement... On second thought, I'm not even sure I want them pouring that kind of money into Frontierland for that...but I could be sold for something grand like that.

Western River is dead... Ain't happening I am afraid... I wish I were wrong but I fear I am not... Frontierland really only has Splash Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain... The land does lack something... Sure, Tom Sawyer Island is there, but, the land just doesn't scream out to me, and I am sure plenty of other guests... I ride SM and BTMR and leave... I'm just trying to figure out what they could possibly bring to Frontierland...

Why do I have a feeling they are thinking of a Woody's Round-up/Toy Story mini land like in Hong Kong Disneyland????

[Tekneek]

Why do I have a feeling they are thinking of a Woody's Round-up/Toy Story mini land like in Hong Kong Disneyland????

Because everybody loves another Pixar attraction!

I take it back. I don't want them doing anything with Frontierland if it isn't going to be big. The already mentioned TLC that Tomorrowland & Future World needs is going to top my list.

[DizneyFreak2002]

Tek, the good thing is, even though this has been looked at over the course of the last few years, nothing is greenlit so maybe this is all typical internet rumor/drive up our hits ploy from newly formed fan sites/summer is here, school is out and I am bored wishful thinking... LOL...

[Tekneek]

Tek, the good thing is, even though this has been looked at over the course of the last few years, nothing is greenlit so maybe this is all typical internet rumor/drive up our hits ploy from newly formed fan sites/summer is here, school is out and I am bored wishful thinking... LOL...

Lately I've been thinking a lot about how I would like to re-imagine/FIX things like Tomorrowland and Future World, so this didn't help.

[WDWfanatic742]

Frontierland is probably the only land/section in the entire resort that really doesn't need an expansion. Re-do Tomorrowland after they messed it up again even after the expansion in the 90's, or even Adventureland and change the area around the carpets and maybe add one more ride there.

From what I have seen, they've been looking at expanding Frontierland for years and years but nothing has ever got greenlit.

[Ian]

Big article about this over at Jim Hill today, so it must have some legs at least.

I don't know why they don't just bring Carsland over to WDW and add the princesses, as well.

Then you'd have great balance between "boys stuff" and "girls stuff."

[BrerGnat]

Big article about this over at Jim Hill today, so it must have some legs at least.

I don't know why they don't just bring Carsland over to WDW and add the princesses, as well.

Then you'd have great balance between "boys stuff" and "girls stuff."

Seriously. But, I don't think MK has the room for Carsland. UNLESS, they were were to use all of Toontown plus the Indy Speedway...

Just for comparison, the space being used for Carsland at DCA is the size of the current Tomorrowland at MK. It's a large area.

They could completely demolish Lights, Motors, Action AND the "Backlot Tour" and build Carsland there, but somehow I doubt they'd consider that...

My guess is that, if they are really intent on leveling the playing field at MK, they will do the following:

-Convert Tom Sawyer Island to "Pirate's Lair" (an easy thing to do with an existing attraction, although personally, I hate the Pirate thing as much as I hate the Princess thing)

-Add some sort of interactive/scavenger hunt type attraction at MK for "techie boys", a la Kim Possible Mission. Perhaps with an Indiana Jones type theme?

-Somehow, work the Toy Story "woody's roundup" theme into Frontierland.