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I think the cause of the irritation is listening to someone complain about something when they don't know what they're talking about. Like with my Seaworld example above - if he doesn't like dolphins, fine. Don't go to Seaworld. But it is so toxic and negative to go and then COMPLAIN because there is mostly just dolphins and stuff. Seriously, can't people at least read what something is all about so they don't go expecting something completely different? I guess I just find it such a "downer" when people complain - like a point I made in another post about "barfy face" icons to describe a restaurant that is just not someone's cup of tea, or how I almost felt insulted when someone said to me "Soarin' is so boring. Only an idiot would enjoy something so lame.". Well, since I like it, I guess that makes me an idiot.... Now, since you say you hate animals (*gasp*, *faint* how COULD you? LOL) fair enough - but at least you don't go to Animal Kingdom and then complain about it!
Originally Posted by LauraleeH
Why does everyone care if someone doesn't want to go to a Park? I mean, yeah, if it's someone in your group that refuses to go to Epcot because they don't want to be educated on vacation and that happens to be your favorite Park, I can understand why you'd be so upset. But if it's a completely different family with completely different opinions, why get so upset over it?
And yes, Animal Kingdom is just another zoo (I can't stand animals) and although I love Expedition Everest, I can live without it.
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I couldn't agree more. ANd though I personally do find Soaring ratehr borin, I woudl not judge you for saying you liked it (though I may make fun of you when your not around for it. Heheh)
In the end it is about educating yourself Disney and if you choose not to that's fine, but complaining about it to those of us who are here and trying to have a good time is just dissheartening and for that, those people do deserve slap in the face with a wet fish
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Originally Posted by mom2morgan
I think the cause of the irritation is listening to someone complain about something when they don't know what they're talking about. Like with my Seaworld example above - if he doesn't like dolphins, fine. Don't go to Seaworld. But it is so toxic and negative to go and then COMPLAIN because there is mostly just dolphins and stuff. Seriously, can't people at least read what something is all about so they don't go expecting something completely different? I guess I just find it such a "downer" when people complain - like a point I made in another post about "barfy face" icons to describe a restaurant that is just not someone's cup of tea, or how I almost felt insulted when someone said to me "Soarin' is so boring. Only an idiot would enjoy something so lame.". Well, since I like it, I guess that makes me an idiot.... Now, since you say you hate animals (*gasp*, *faint* how COULD you? LOL) fair enough - but at least you don't go to Animal Kingdom and then complain about it!
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I talk with friends that are going and let them know what I like and why. It is just as important when I talk with my friends about WDW that I keep what they like and dislike. This is just as important as what I like. Everyone has a choice as to what they do. All people that love WDW should do is share their joy with others that ask them and not offer it to people that they do not know unless they are asked. To do otherwise is just plain rude and intrusive. IMHO.
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If I hadn't spent quality time years ago doing a bit of pre trip research...I would never have gotton as much out of my earlier trips as I did.
Years later....I now know how to plan my trips and get the most out of every park.
Anyone I talk to about Disney I always tell to do a little reading and make a plan. While I don't plan out each ride etc in each park...I do plan what parks to hit on what days and based on the time of day know which areas are best to hit.
While not a fan of AK...there are things there we do enjoy so we go, do what we like and then leave.
Same with DHS...not a huge fan but there are things there my DS LOVESSSSSS so we go, enjoy and move on.
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We have friends that have been going twice a year, for 7 days at a time, for about 6 years now. They only visit one park each visit and have never been to AK and just went to HS for the first time this year. They had never even heard of Fantasmic or Toy story mania. They always tell us that they always just go to Disney World, referring to The Magic Kingdom. The really funny thing is they are DVC owners. I always ask them if they have done this or seen that. But, they seem to just stay at the resort in the pool all the time. I think I could find a cheaper place to do that than WDW. I quess I will never get it.
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Originally Posted by pdrlkr
We have friends that have been going twice a year, for 7 days at a time, for about 6 years now. They only visit one park each visit and have never been to AK and just went to HS for the first time this year. They had never even heard of Fantasmic or Toy story mania. They always tell us that they always just go to Disney World, referring to The Magic Kingdom. The really funny thing is they are DVC owners. I always ask them if they have done this or seen that. But, they seem to just stay at the resort in the pool all the time. I think I could find a cheaper place to do that than WDW. I quess I will never get it.
Now that's amazing! There's definitely a cheaper place for pool time than WDW!
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Epcot is a half a day and outta there.
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Originally Posted by mom2morgan
I think the cause of the irritation is listening to someone complain about something when they don't know what they're talking about. Like with my Seaworld example above - if he doesn't like dolphins, fine. Don't go to Seaworld. But it is so toxic and negative to go and then COMPLAIN because there is mostly just dolphins and stuff. Seriously, can't people at least read what something is all about so they don't go expecting something completely different? I guess I just find it such a "downer" when people complain - like a point I made in another post about "barfy face" icons to describe a restaurant that is just not someone's cup of tea, or how I almost felt insulted when someone said to me "Soarin' is so boring. Only an idiot would enjoy something so lame.". Well, since I like it, I guess that makes me an idiot.... Now, since you say you hate animals (*gasp*, *faint* how COULD you? LOL) fair enough - but at least you don't go to Animal Kingdom and then complain about it!
I get your point, but anyone who says that someone is an idiot because they don't like the same ride as you is probably like that with everything, and to call others names just because of petty differences in ride choices is pretty mean.
Oh, and just so you know, it's the smell Even though they are beautiful, the animal smell makes me sick...and I get kind of bored just watching them, although it's funny to think that they are looking at us people and thinking stuff like, "I'd hate to be a human, just walking around all day, staring at us and taking pictures" lol.
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Originally Posted by LauraleeH
I get your point, but anyone who says that someone is an idiot because they don't like the same ride as you is probably like that with everything, and to call others names just because of petty differences in ride choices is pretty mean.
Oh, and just so you know, it's the smell Even though they are beautiful, the animal smell makes me sick...and I get kind of bored just watching them
See that I have no problem with at all if you've been to a park or even a ride and you decided you don't like it then that is fine don't go why should anybody say you should go if you don't enjoy it? It's your vacation you should have fun.
Where I get slightly annoyed is with people that are judging based on something they know nothing about because they've never been. For example like the person who overheard somebody saying they wouldn't go to Epcot because it was educational. They had never been yet they were judging it. I don't even care that they will miss out that is their choice. I don't like the fact that they could possibly go home and tell a friend or family member who is about to go that there wasn't much to do and their opinion of Epcot and make it sound like they had gone when they never had. It's kind of like the saying Don't Judge A Book By It's Cover. That is what they seem to do.
Now I will say I have first hand experience at this. Not so much a park but there have been rides that I would always skip because I didn't think I would enjoy them. However one trip I finally decided to give it a try and you know what I really liked it. It made me upset that all those other trips I had skipped it because I didn't think I would like it. So its really taught me to try things before you pass judgement on whether you would like it or not.
Like I said if you've tried it and don't like it that is fine why should you keep going somewhere or doing something you don't enjoy but you should at least try it once because if you don't you'll never know what your missing.
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Why does anyone feel slighted or angry because someone else does not find a something as wonderful as you think it is? The older I get the more tolerant I become to others likes and dislikes. If someone does not see any of the parks like I see them, that is fine with me. I happen to think Vegas is terrible, I happen to think thrill rides don't belong at Epcot and I think Disney can't do anything wrong. It's how I feel, and it is alright if you don't feel the same.
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I don't get as upset when people say they dislike something, but I do get annoyed when people ask ridiculous questions.
I just returned from a trip 2 days ago, and I was asked where the Epcot Hotel was. While I was on a bus to AK. Its just astounding that some people put absolutely no effort into researching where they are going to, especially someplace like WDW.
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When we first went to WDW, we were kind of ignorant and didn't see everything in all the parks because they "didn't look interesting" or had heard they weren't much fun. But the next time we went, I decided to get a book and research some. DH didn't want to hear anything about what I read or read it himself and still had the same opinion about WDW, a theme park with roller coasters. I don't ride roller coasters so skipped a lot of the rides. But I enjoyed the atmosphere so much that we kept going back. Finally DD pointed me to Intercot and I have learned so much on here that I would never have gotten from a book. I put the DVD on one night and DH actually watched it with me and was astonished at all he had been missing. So the last time we went, just he and I, we explored every single thing in all of the parks. Now we really know what we do and do not want to see or skip next time.
It doesn't bother me if someone else doesn't like something I do. That is their right. The same things don't appeal to everyone. What I don't like is someone passing on their opinions to someone else, i.e. "don't bother with that one, there's nothing to do there" or "don't bother to go to Ak, it's just a zoo." and that person taking their word for it instead of experiencing it themselves. Along the way, I've tried to give little hints and advice to friends making a trip, so as to not sound overbearing but hoping to get them to explore a little, and have either been met with turned up noses at the advice or either smiles and thanks for cluing them in. Some people just don't know there are ways out there to research the parks or don't have the time to do it. I always just say, "Go to Intercot. There is more information on there about the parks and resorts than you would ever want to know." Most have thanked me later. But if someone doesn't want to go to Epcot for the "educational" benefit, that's fine with me. More room for me and shorter lines. They would research a cruise or European trip before going, why not the parks at WDW?
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It's an interesting thing. The reason most of us start out as members here on INTERCOT is because we are looking for information for an upcoming trip to Disney World. I would lay bets that we all are, by nature, more likely to research any vacation that we are going on, Disney or not. I know that is the case for me. I like to research and plan for my family's annual trips, that is part of the fun. However, there are a lot of people out there that rarely go on vacation anywhere and so the idea of actually doing extensive information-gathering before a trip is a foreign idea and something they may never understand.
I have a niece who is married to an airline pilot and potentially could go some great places inexpensively, but they hardly ever leave their home state (well, he does, but mainly as part of his job, of course). A couple of years ago they finally decided to take their girls on a trip to Disney World. I gave her a few tips on where to go to gather some information (INTERCOT being number one on the list, of course) but I know she spent very little time actually doing that. After they returned, I could tell she felt very underwhelmed by their experience at WDW, saying it was "not as much fun as I expected it to be". Of course, they had barely hit any of the highlights (despite my urging to stay there longer, they were only at WDW itself for three days before they headed over to one of the beaches). The thing is, if someone is not the type of person who is used to researching and planning they will probably never get the appeal of WDW, or many other places they go.
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I don't see them as being foolish for only taking 3 days to WDW and not hitting everything you suggested. Chances are they just don't want to dish out that much money in one place, or were interested in what you suggested, but I'm sure they still had fun. What I don't understand is how people need to take a full 2 weeks at WDW and still say they didn't have enough time to do it all. I'm guessing it's because since I'm a local, I could go visit for a day and be done. I've been able to hit all 4 parks in one day before and that's what I'd usually do for a trip out to Disney, and get my money's worth. For 3 days, I can easily see do MK one day, Epcot another, and AK/MGM the last.
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Epcot is a half a day and outta there.
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I agree. I don't think I'm a fool because I've done everything Epcot has to offer at least once and it just doesn't interest me.
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