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View Poll Results: Are you going to leave an additional tip or call the DDE 18% imposed gratuity good?
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Who is going to leave an additional tip on top of the DDE required 18%
Just wondering who is going to consider the mandatory 18% gratuity a tip and who is planning to make up the difference with an additional tip? According to the response to my emailed question, they are adding the 18% on prior to the 20% discount.
Last edited by BriarRose; 12-04-2007 at 11:34 AM.
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Here in the Chicagoland area, standard tip is anywhere from 15-18%. At Disney, we usually tip 20% or more based on level of service and friendliness at TS meals (the DDE discount) because it's easy to just add back in the discount & round up to the nearest dollar. Simple to track, and easy to finalize the bill and move on to the next activity.
Now we will reserve judgement on which servers will get an additional percentage based on service - not because I feel I should be tipping them more. We will give additional tips to the CMs who give exemplary service and should be rewarded, but we certainly will not be adding the 2% in "just because".
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I will tip on top of the 18% because I know how much they make without it and also, if they are a good server, they deserve it. Plus I tip high anyways.
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Once tip is included, that's all they get, period. Also, if service isn't over the top, I'll be talking to management to reduce that tip.
Tip or gratuity is NOT automatic.
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I have to say by adding the 18% they really said this is what our service is worth. There might be a rare occaision when a server goes above and beyondI might Tip more. But I agree once you add it to the bill that's it. And for the record I am a notorious over tipper.
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Originally Posted by DizneyRox
Once tip is included, that's all they get, period. Also, if service isn't over the top, I'll be talking to management to reduce that tip.
Tip or gratuity is NOT automatic.
I don't have a Disney Dining Experience card, but I completely agree. I would never tip extra on the Disney Dining Plan because gratuity should never be included with the bill. I still can't believe how many people say they will definitely give more than the automatic 18 percent.
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Originally Posted by DizneyRox
Once tip is included, that's all they get, period. Also, if service isn't over the top, I'll be talking to management to reduce that tip.
Tip or gratuity is NOT automatic.
I agree with DizneyRox on this.
I also agree about reducing the tip if the service is bad.
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I'm sorry, I couldn't answer your poll, because I will tip more if service merits, but I'm not going to automatically bump it up to 20%.
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As others have shared, I routinely added the 20% right back on as the tip and in fact generally tip 20% most places.
Now, I may add the difference if the cast member really does a 'magical' job. But for most meals, it is what it is.
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It's Not Voluntary
To quote Webster's dictionary, at gratuity is:
"something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service".
Note the word voluntarily, and the phrase beyond obligation. With the DDE, it's NOT voluntary, and you're obliged to pay it. That's why I'll not be getting a DDE card anytime soon. If you're forced to pay the 18%, it's not a gratuity any longer - it's a surcharge.
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Basically we're going to tip what we would normally. So, if the service is worth 30% we'll leave extra. And if the service is worth 5%, we'll find a mananger and make arrangements to leave 5%.
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Originally Posted by brad192
To quote Webster's dictionary, at gratuity is:
"something given voluntarily or beyond obligation usually for some service".
Note the word voluntarily, and the phrase beyond obligation. With the DDE, it's NOT voluntary, and you're obliged to pay it. That's why I'll not be getting a DDE card anytime soon. If you're forced to pay the 18%, it's not a gratuity any longer - it's a surcharge.
You know, that's almost exactly what I told DDE and Guest Relations when I sent an email about the policy change. I did not get a response.
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It will depend on if the service deserves the extra amount.
However, I think this a good idea because the server will get tipped according to the pre-discount amount. Too many people tip according to the final amount after the discount - and that reduces the tip the server is entitled to.
Yes, I said entitled to - they provide a service and should be paid accordingly.
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Originally Posted by DizneyRox
Once tip is included, that's all they get, period. Also, if service isn't over the top, I'll be talking to management to reduce that tip.
Tip or gratuity is NOT automatic.
DizneyRox, you've hit the nail on the head!
I realize waiters and waitresses don't get paid very much per hour, but I don't think that it is the patron's responsibility to make up for it without taking into account the level of service provided.
While I generally tip 15-20%, if the service is excellent, I'll tip more. Conversely, if the service is poor, I'll tip less than usual.
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Originally Posted by Natazu
You know, that's almost exactly what I told DDE and Guest Relations when I sent an email about the policy change. I did not get a response.
Jym,
Funny you say that. I sent a nicely worded email explaining the difference between a service charge and a gratuity.
They never responded to mine either.
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Originally Posted by BriarRose
. . . Just wondering who is going to . . . make up the difference with an additional tip? . . .
1) Make up what difference?
2) I don't understand.
3) An 18% tip is plenty for good service.
4) There isn't that much exemplary service requiring more than 18%.
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Even though I voted "No", I will continue to leave more for excellent service. Really good service deserves 20% to 25% in MHO.
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i will- when warranted
I will definitely leave more -If the service is Above and beyond. If the server does a good job, makes my family enjoy the meal, i will definitely put in an extra 2% + if its something magical- then they will get more. I tend to overtip because i was a waiter during college and i hATED waiting on people. Its tough and i still see rude people who make a server's job so difficult.
Last year , while at Artisit's pointe , there was a family who made me cringe-
Complaining about everything, making requests for items not on the menu, returning food because it wasn't exactly cooked right, being loud and whenever the waiter walked away, they said things about him. My kids overheard and didn't need to see that, and i have difficulty being quiet, but i kept it to myself. in reality, they were taking the waitier away from us because he had to be at their every waking call.
At the end of the night, i heard them say- "well, he isn't getting much of a tip, and saw the man throw a 5$ bill on the table,
Its a pretty expensive restaurant by my standards, but it was a special occasion for us.
so 5$ wasnt going to cover it-
As we walked out, I stopped them , and said- " I just want to tell you that your actions at dinner were appalling, i didn;t like the way you treated the waitier and you actually ruined the night for my family with your antics." - i was trying my best to be polite. I was much bigger than the hubby, so he kept quiet , but the wife said" well, the service hear isn't like the Ritz"
I laughed and said, " i really think you should go back in and give him more of a tip. They looked at me like i was an alien, but i was gettting angry and i guess my eyes showed it., and the son said " hey dad, i agree with this man, we should't stiff him like you usually do" and the father went back and hopefully gave him some more $$. i guess they do it alot and the son had issues with them too.
I seriously doubt it would ever had resulted in violence, that was not my point nor my intention. But at times i just can't hold in my anger when people treat others so poorly.
I have a relative who is like that and i refuse to go out with them to dinner for similar reasons.
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We normally tip very, very good. If the server is just average, we'll tip at least 20%....if they're over the top we will go somewhat higher....if they're below average or just plain rude, well, we still tip, but it's a smaller percentage.....BUT, at Disney, so far, we've only had top notch service ...... sorry, I don't think I've answered your question specifically.
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